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Advanced No-Limit Hold 'em

Advanced No-Limit Hold 'em

According to famous poker player and author Doyle Brunson, No-Limit Hold'em is the Cadillac of all poker games. The skill involved with No-Limit games is tremendous, even seasoned professionals admit that they still have a lot to learn at No-Limit Hold'em. However, don't let this scare you. No-Limit Hold'em is, in my opinion, the most fun of all poker games. It can also be profitable, sometimes even for beginners.

After playing No-Limit extensively on the net, I've noticed that the keys to winning No-Limit are one's knowledge of the game and his ability to adapt to his opponents' knowledge. You must know what your skills are at No-Limit and what stages of the game you have mastered. Once you realize how you are good at No-Limit, you must then apply this to how badly others at your table play No-Limit.

For the sake of simplicity, I am going to divide the skills of No-Limit into several stages. After mastering each of these stages, one can expect his or her profit potential at No-Limit to increase.
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* Pot odds[/LIST]You must understand what odds you are getting if you call a bet with a draw. Since you can determine the size of the bet (it's not fixed), you should know if you are getting or giving good odds to someone.
For example, calling an unraised pot with several players in ahead of you preflop with 55 is good odds. If you hit a set, you can expect to make a lot of money (people will not expect it so they will call with top pair). However, let's say it's on the turn and you have a flush draw. The pot is $10 and someone bets $20 all-in, you are getting horrible odds. You have roughly a 1 in 5 shot of hitting, and you would be betting $20 to win $50 (1-2.5 odds).

As basic as this may be, many No-Limit players have not even mastered this stage! So if you are still insecure about pot odds, don't worry. Many others are too and often they don't even realize it.
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* Realizing the differences between Limit and No-Limit[/LIST]Check-raising for value is far less valuable in No-Limit than Limit because you may be giving your opponent's a deadly free card. In Limit poker, if you have the second best hand, you will lose a little bit. In No-Limit, you could lose your entire stack.
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* Aggression[/LIST]Betting is far better than calling in No-Limit. When you bet, you can win if you have the better hand or if your opponent folds. If you call, you can only win if you have your opponent beaten. If you bet, you determine the bet size. You determine the pot odds. If you call, you are accepting someone else's odds.

If you bet, you force people to pay off when you have a good hand. If you are a caller, you have to hope someone else will willingly pay you off. The importance of aggression is why tight-passive players can win a lot more at Limit than No-Limit.
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* Quick Adjustment[/LIST]Different types of games require different amounts of aggression. Shorter games require one to be looser and more aggressive. However, if your up against many loose opponents, you must tighten up and wait until you have a strong hand. Generally, the opposite of what the game is does well. If the game is very loose, tighten up. If the game is very tight, take advantage and steal pots.

You also must adjust to your opponent's quality. If you are up against weak players, simply giving them bad pot odds and taking money from them bit by bit works well. If you are against better players, you must set some traps.
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* Reading skills[/LIST]Getting an idea of your opponent's cards is very important. This takes time and experience. However, a way to improve your reading skills is what I call the 'three question technique.' Always ask yourself these three questions when someone makes or calls a bet:
[LIST]<LI class=MsoNormal>What does he have?
* What does he think I have?
* What does he think I think he has?[/LIST]
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Once you hold the whopper and your opponent also has a good hand, what's the best way to double through him? Learning to get out of and set traps is very difficult and only experience will help in this department. Fundamentally, game psychology and traps are used to manipulate the three questions mentioned earlier. For example, if you over bet the pot with a flush draw and then check when you hold the flush, either your opponent will fall for the trap, thinking you had top pair or will realize the trap and check-fold to you on river. The slowplay was used to manipulate the variable: what does he think I have? Generally, this sort of game psychology is to only be used on good players (players that have mastered the first 4 steps). Against weaker players, you should just build a good hand and extract money out of them bit by bit. 2

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I Just Wanted To Say Great Post And Great Info. Thanks For Giving Us Some Great Material To Read And Thanks For You All's Work.{And Freerolls Too}.

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:mcool:   DOYLE is a great legend, IVEY , FERGUSON are some of my other favs.

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Nice way of explainig these issues of Poker !!

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Great post and lots of good info there. Thanks!

"Trust everyone, but always cut the cards". -- Benny Binion

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Good summary. I especially the point about differences between no limit and limit whan it comes to risk of gicing free card.

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I read this elsewhere and thought I would share it. Let me know what you think.

Alf

Online Poker Freerolls are a unique breed amongst poker tournaments and require a certain way of playing in order to succeed. Here are some tips that will help you succeed in online poker freeroll tournaments.


1. Be patient.
I've put this rule first as I believe patience is the number one most important quality required to do well in the freerolls. One important point to bear in mind is that freerolls usually have hundreds of entrants and can take several hours to complete. If you want to be there at the final table you will need to be very patient.

2. Be Aggressive.
Freerolls are multi-table tournaments and you will usually be seated at a table of ten all the way through the tournament. This is a good thing in a way as it means you don't need to adjust your play to suit a shorter table, but it does mean that when you do have a good hand you need to play it aggressively. Top pairs like Aces and Kings should always be raised strongly pre-flop as they can often come unstuck after the flop. Whenever you get a good hand, ie a high pair or AKs, AQs, you must be aggressive.

3. Play less hands.
As well as being aggressive you need to be controlled and play less hands. Don't be tempted to play hunches, sit tight and wait for the good hands then play them aggressively. A good rule of thumb is to throw away any hand that contains a card that's lower than an eight.

4. Use your table position.
If you are first or second in the betting, a King 10 isn't a very good hand. There are nine players to follow you and if any of them have a pair or an Ace or a King with Queen or Jack then you are struggling. However if you are at the end of the betting and you can "limp in" with a call or check, then your KT becomes an altogether better prospect. Nobody has raised yet so your King might be good and it is certainly worth seeing the flop.

5. Vary your play.
Although you need to be patient and wait for a good hand, don't become too predictable. If you only play the big hands and always raise then your opponents will simply back down and let you take the blinds. The trouble with this is you won't be winning enough in blinds to keep your head above water as you are playing too few hands. You need to vary your style of play and become hard to read.

6. Avoid bluffing.
Bluffing should be avoided, except on very rare occasions. As there are always ten people at the table there is a very high chance that someone will have a good hand each time and will want to go against you, even if you go all in. All in on a bluff is almost suicidal at the online poker freerolls, there's nearly always somebody prepared to call you and you have little chance of surviving.


7. Watch your opponents and learn their playing style.
You can learn a lot of valuable poker information just by watching your opponents at the table. Do they bet almost every hand, do they sit back and wait for a good hand (like you!), do they fold easily at the first sign of a raise, do they just want to see a free card, is there a "maniac" who raises every hand?

8. Concentrate on the game.
If you want to find out how your opponents play, you need to concentrate fully on what you're doing. Don't write emails while your playing or surf other sites, and turn off that TV!

9. Avoid hesitation.
If you hesitate before you make your move then it is seen as a sign of weakness. In online poker freerolls you can't watch your opponent's reaction or see them sweat and one of the few "tells" that you have is the speed at which your opponent makes his move. The worst sin here is to hesitate for a while then check, you have just told the table you don't have a hand but you want to see the next card. You will simply be raised straight out of the hand.

10. Don't chase draws.
It can be very tempting when you see that you have a straight draw, (eg you've got a 6 7 and there's a 5 and 8 in the flop) but the reality is that this hand rarely produces a winner. If you can see the other cards free or for a cheap call then by all means take a look, but remember at this point you have absolutely nothing and your opponents have almost certainly got at least a pair.

11. Remember that your opponents will play different cards from you.
Just because you are doing everything right doesn't mean that they will too! People will play all sorts of hands, especially in an online poker freeroll and you can expect some crazy bad beats. Particular attention should be paid to the possibility of straights, if there are three cards on the table like 5 6 8 for example, there's a good chance somebody might be playing with a 7 4!

12. Treat the freerolls seriously.
Although you're not investing any money to take part in the online poker freerolls, you are investing a chunk of your time so take them seriously. They are a good training ground for learning poker tournament skills and to win one is a very good achievement. Not to mention you will win some money!

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Great Info to have.

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no limet holdem is the best game to play

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some great info in this forum

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Top 5 Rookie Mistakes

Playing to many hands &#8211; you&#8217;ve got to be selective when playing poker. The old saying may go &#8220;you can&#8217;t win if you don&#8217;t play,&#8221; but it&#8217;s also true that you can&#8217;t lose what you don&#8217;t put in the pot. Playing mediocre hands that lose most of the time when up against premium hands will destroy your chip stack. By playing too many hands, you&#8217;re tipping the odds in your opponent&#8217;s favor.

Playing over your head &#8211; If you&#8217;re really a beginner, play at a beginner table. Many rookies think they have the game down cold just because they watch the WPT on TV all the time and they cleaned up while playing their poker buddies in the basement. Start out small and if you dominate those levels, move up. It will save you lots of money if you play below your level instead of over it.

Too much bluffing &#8211; This is another rookie symptom brought on by watching too much poker on TV. You&#8217;re not a poker pro yet, so don&#8217;t think you can act like one. Throwing in the occasional bluff is fine, but don&#8217;t fall in love with trying to dupe the table, or the players who know what they&#8217;re doing will fleece you.

Playing distracted &#8211; If you&#8217;re going to play poker then play poker. Don&#8217;t listen to your favorite tunes while watching TV and catching up on some of that work you missed while slacking off at the office. If you&#8217;re not totally focused on the game, you&#8217;ll make that one big mistake that sucks you dry.

Falling in love with your hand &#8211; Rookies who get monster hands tend to play them out no matter what happens. When they do pull in a monster hand and it gets beat, that usually means a lot of chips just went to their opponent. Remember, no matter how good your hand is, it is beatable, so don&#8217;t be afraid to fold if you know you&#8217;re beat.

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im new to rounders radio but im glad i found it ive been playing daily online.I noe usally place in the top 10%in the freerolls i play my ? is what are your top 5 picks for me considering my skill level tx.bigtime365

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Top 5 picks to do what? Like the top 5 things to think about at the table, is that what you mean?

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cadokid;10401 wrote:

no limet holdem is the best game to play

Any poker game is fine for me.  Love / Hate relationship with them all. :mlaugh:

Tricks and treachery are the practice of fools, that don't have brains enough to be honest.
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Excellent posts, Ace and Sir and rlg!

Tricks and treachery are the practice of fools, that don't have brains enough to be honest.
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I've only just caught up with this thread. I agree with Sorrow. Some great tips to be found here.

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Thanks for all the info Ace!

I am new to RR and find useful information every time I log in.  Looking forward to listening, learning and growing my bank roll!

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Thanks for the post Ace well put bro. I need to pick ur brain sometime and get some one at ur skill level to help me out with my graghs and close up some of my leaks online. I'm havin a hard time makin the transition from live to online I think. I find myself chasing intirely to much, knowing I shouldnt do it and do anyways. A habit I have got to break and cant. Any suggestions?

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I am sure that Ace wold love to do this for you. He might even give you a deal for the lessons....LOL

A little prayer and a little luck still wont replace skill in this game.

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no limit is for players that can controll there betting

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I like the idea of varying your play . As a beginner you are taught to play good start cards . At some point in MTT's you may be able to play or call somewhat less valued cards to see a flop if it is cheap enough . Don't just try to play them at any time , but the if the right opportunity presents itself and is not costly it may be worth a shot . Always be ready to fold , watch your kicker , see what bet is in front of you , and more . If you take the time to watch some games where someone has ammassed a large chipstack or even later in the tourney you may notice that some cards played and win that are not always so great looking . They may be able to afford this play style at this point but am sure they do not spend many chips to play them . Always be on the alert for the larger raises as they seem to indicate Pocket pairs and AK or similar. Position, position, position . Don't walk into these on a lurch . I know Ace recommends playing your larger pairs strongly and you can notice that others for the most part do exactly that .I just wanted to add that watching a game in its late stages can be as beneficial as playing too .

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